Wednesday, July 05, 2006

Arizona LD 26

Lena Saradnik, Democratic candidate for State Representative, announced today that the AFL-CIO and the Arizona Education Association have endorsed her.

In a brief statement Saradnik said:

“I am indeed honored the two major Arizona unions organizations support our efforts. As your elected State Representative, I will fight for quality public education, honor for our public school teachers, affordable healthcare for families, and well paying jobs and prosperity for all Arizonans.

Together we can win in 2006!”



37 comments:

George Tuttle said...

I would bet that she had to earn these endorsements.

Unlike someone else.

Art Jacobson said...

George...

You mean unlike Latas, who hasn't earned any? Announcements of endorsements must be terrible for you.

Rex Scott said...

Lena is an outstanding candidate in all respects. She is bright, a hard worker and tremendously caring. I hope that Democrats all over Southern Arizona will pound the pavement for her as she has a real chance of winning as the sole Democrat running for one of two seats in LD26.

Lena will also be the beneficiary of the purge right-wingers are tring to mount in LD 26 against Pete Hershberger, a decent and sensible legislator who has angered the conservative GOP leadership by refusing to march in lockstep with them. His opponents in the GOP primary are all to his right...and one of them will be chosen to run with Pete in November. LD26 is known for being a bastion of common sense (if you forgive us for Dan Schottel!), so it is quite likely that Lena and Pete (whose family name will trump attempts to dump him in the primary) can both be elected.

Randy Graf is a mentor to David Jorgenson, one of the GOP representative candidates, and to Al Melvin, who is hoping to beat moderate GOP Senator Toni Hellon. The hard right has also targeted Senator Carolyn Allen in Scottsdale.

Funny how the GOP attack dogs have slipped their leashes and turned on those who once delighted in their tactics back when they were solely usd against Democrats! If the GOP moderates hoped to save their place in their party, they should have spayed or neutered these folks long ago!

phx kid said...

Lena may be a fine candidate but she does not have a chance of winning. LD26 is a Republican district.

Even if there was a purge against Pete why would it help Lena get in? When Republicans in 26 see Carol and David on the ballot in November they will vote for them because there is an (R) by their name. It’s that simple.

Hershberger is a nobody to most people in the district, especially those that have just moved here. Pete would not even qualify as a moderate if here were part of the Democratic caucus.

Graf is not a mentor to David. Jorgenson has been living in the area for quite some time and relies very little on Randy.

Your so-called “GOP attack dogs” are plain old Republican voters. “Spayed and neutered” not quite. In fact they are the ones having all the kids since the left decided abortion is a sacrament. Take a look at Pete. Is he even married? Talk about neutered. How many kids does he have? Family name ends! Game over.

The right-wingers are the ones breeding. The tofu eating, bohemian Democrats maybe have one or two if they can manage to find someone of the opposite sex to live with. Good luck in November in NW Tucson.

Liza said...

phx kid,
The most interesting thing about your comment is that you seem to be literate and able to construct a sentence. I'm just amazed because Fox News and conservative talk radio are not exactly helping you Republicans with your communication skills. You must be a real standout among your friends.

phx kid said...

Thanks for the kind words. I don’t watch Fox news very often because we cancelled cable. Some of the programs were not very appropriate for the 3 year old who runs our household. He would rather watch Thomas Train anyway.

As for conservative talk radio, G. Gordon Liddy could hold his own up against even Noam himself.

George Tuttle said...

Ummmm Art, you'd better change your tone there buddy.

Latas did indeed EARN, repeat EARN the endorsements from PDA and DFA. The emphasis on the word: EARN.

He actually competed with other cnadidates for it. Not just handed it to him because of political pressure.

Funny, I would trust the endorsements that were EARNED rather than gifted over.

Congrats Lena, I know you EARNED those.

Rex Scott said...

Phoenix Kid, your comments above are indicative of the elitist, intolerant enclave that IS the modern Republican Party. The hatchet job that you did on Hershberger's personal life mirrors what the GOP legislative leadership did to him and Tom O'Halleran when they spoke out against a reactionary agenda that would have screwed Arizona's kids even more than they have been. Revenge is now being practiced on them, Hellon and Allen because they are viewed as heretics and apostates.

Your only hope is that every person with an "R" after their name is a knee-jerk voter, but LD26 residents have shown themselves to be discerning and skeptical. If the GOP puts forth a Graf clone like Jorgenson, that IS a great opportunity for Lena, although I admit that Carol Somers is more reasonable and formidable because she has been in the Legislature when she represented the former LD13.

Your self-righteous blast at fellow Republicans not only exposes the lie of the GOP taking a "big tent" view of its membership; it also strips away the "compassionate conservative" window dressing famously employed by Dubya and others to mask their true intentions. As a former Republican, I read your words with satisfaction as they reaffirmed my choice (made in 2000) to leave the party. Sadly, however, it also sounded much like those in my new party who take it upon themselves to label those they disagree with as "DINOs," or somehow lacking in "progressive" credentials.

Reagan had it right when he once remarked that "someone who agrees with you 80% of the time is your friend and ally, not some 20% traitor." The GOP I joined in the early '80's, which he led, embraced that basic truth and had members espousing many views. The Republican Party of 2006 is one where monotheism rules and dissenters get an ignominious smackdown. I hope the Democrats can avoid their own version of this sad tale.

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George Tuttle said...

Roger, you hit it on the head.

They gave it to her based on her performance in the state legislature...nothing more, nothing less.

Why heck, they didn't even have the courtesy of interviewing the other candidates. That, in my mind makes the endorsement much more suspect (here we go again with this fact).

By the way, I think you forgotten that Jeff Latas was a founding member of the Band of Brothers. Latas, Eric Massa, Max Cleland and others were in the group from the outset. I didn't see Gabby or anyone else in CD-8 out there getting this group started...did you??

phx kid said...

Rex

“intolerant” “hatchet job” Your own words of “spayed or neutered these folks” are not exactly inclusive. You are the one who is intolerant. We all care deeply about the issues for which we advocate. When you categorize someone else as an “attack dog” you are purposefully seeking to dehumanize him or her. Practice what you preach.

“elitist” Not me, I live in a regular tract home on a public street. You must be thinking of Latas up in the gated Estates at High Mesa in Oro Valley.

Your quote of Reagan is correct. The problem is that Pete does not agree with the party 80% of the time. He actually doesn’t even agree 20%. He is in the wrong party. If Pete wants to run he should be honest and register as an independent or some other party. It doesn’t matter how big a tent in which one believes Pete is outside of the tent. He is quite simply not a Republican. That is a fact not an attack.

Speaking of Arizona’s kids there are quite a few of them each year who are ripped apart inside the womb. Pete is a big supporter of this abomination know as abortion. Sell your false compassion somewhere else. If you cared the slightest about human life you would be a pro-life advocate opposed to an abortion fan like Pete.

The GOP did not put forth Jorgenson. The state and county party could not find NW Tucson on a map if you paid them.

Art Jacobson said...

PhxKid...

You're right about the Republican advantage in LD 26. That is one reason that many LD 26 Democrats, and I am one of them, regularly re-register as Independents.

We are interested in securing the most moderate Republican representative possible.

Since our candidate has no primary opponent we can safely vote in the Republican primary, a strategy I recommend. Better Hershberger and Hellon than a pair of ultra conservative Republicans.

Art

phx kid said...

Roger,

I wouldn’t take on the AEA, Sierra Club, or Emily’s List. They are what they are. There is nothing to say.

It is charlatans like Hershberger that are deserving of contempt. Pete is not man enough to register in the party with which he agrees. He is too afraid to stand up and be honest about his positions so he hides within the majority party in District 26. Well reality is catching up with him.

phx kid said...

Art,

Very well said. Finally something intelligent. Maybe you could loan some of your intellect to Rex, since you seem to have an abundance and he is clearly lacking.

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phx kid said...

Roger,

Thanks for the qualification. I quite enjoy being the resident Republican so keep it coming!

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Rex Scott said...

Phoenix Kid, anyone who thinks that you grow a party by excluding anyone who doesn't kowtow to your narrow views is not only bereft of intellect, but also common sense. The jihad against Pete is not limited to him. As I said earlier, it is also being waged against Allen and Hellon. Care to slam them, too?

Moreover, you are dancing right on the edge of true nastiness with your repeated attacks on Pete's masculinity. You've gone there twice in these posts. A little below the belt, don't you think?

My reference to "spay and neuter," by the way, was related to my earlier characterization of people like Graf and Al Melvin as "attack dogs." I made NO reference to anyone's marital status, as you have freely done.

George Tuttle said...

Art-huh??

You switched to Independent BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN DISTRICT 26??

Your logic escapes me at this point. Just because you live in a heavily Republican district you switch parties to I?? What does that afford you....unless you are seeking public office.

Other than that it looks like you just threw in the towel. Why didn't you just go all the way and register as an R?

phx kid said...

Rex

“narrow views” Please tell me one issue where Pete agrees with the party in which he hides? There is a difference between narrow and nothing in common. Pete is the latter.

Allen is a big girl and can take care of herself. I think you misspoke when you used the term “attack dog” in reference to Carolyn’s opponent. Colette is more like “starving Rottweiler.”

Hellon has no one to thank but herself for Al running against her. She has a very clear record. I will let her defend it.

In regards to Pete’s manhood or lack there of you said it when you used the word “neuter.” Come on, the guy is 57 years old. If Pete can’t take the heat maybe he belongs in a party that hold views more similar to his. He is also dishonest. Go to his web site at http://www.pete2006.com/issues.aspx and read the section on Guns. Pete votes against most ever pro-firearms bill there is and then says he supports the 2nd Amendment. He is not truthful. Why doesn’t he just be open and say that he is afraid of guns and does not want anyone one else to have them.

Liza said...

phx kid.

I believe that "attack dog" was used metaphorically in Rex Scott's post.

You, like all other Republicans, seem to believe that abortion and homosexuality are instrinsically related to everything else. All of you seem unable to have a conversation that is devoid of these references. Tell me, do any of you think independently?

It is my understanding that Karl Rove now wants the 2006 GOP election attacks on Democrats to focus on our willingness to "cut and run" in Iraq as well as our other "weaknesses" in national security. So, how are you going to relate abortion, homosexuality, and national security to each and every election issue? I know you can do it, but I think it will a challenge.

By the way, how does illegal immigration fit in? I thought that was going to be the GOP distraction issue for 2006, but now Rove wants it to be national security. Well, talk radio has everyone immigrant bashing, apparently premature in developing their strategy. Can the Republicans change gears in time for the election?

phx kid said...

Liza

Please tell me one core issue where Pete agrees with the Republican Party.

Rex Scott said...

Pete is not with you on social issues and I agree that he is not a strong Second Amendment backer. He has been a steadfast supporter of public education and the interests of children. That used to be admired in Republican circles, but now it causes people to question your partisan loyalty, I guess.

He is a stauch Republican in other areas, especially with regard to tax policy and environmental issues. He backed Huffman when Steve tried to take away the desegregation funds used by TUSD and other districts because the State chose to dodge the issue back when federal court orders came down in the 1970's.

Hershberger is not a conservative, which is apparently all that troubles you, Phoenix Kid. You make my argument for me by proving that liberal to moderate Republicans are no longer welcome in the fold and the campaigns that will be waged against Pete, Allen and Hellon will offend many centrist GOP voters. Enjoy your shrinking base.

By the way, I would assert that those who question the lifelong Democrat credentials of Joe Lieberman because they disagree with him on Iraq are just as wrong. This is not to say that Ned Lamont should not oppose him in the primary, but let's not say the guy is not a true Democrat because we differ with him on this one (admittedly huge!) issue. In a two party system, there must be room for Democrats and Republicans of many ideological stripes.

phx kid said...

“He has been a steadfast supporter of public education” – Democratic position.

“supporter of” … “the interests of children” – Except if they are unborn.

Pete is not a supporter of Republican tax policy. He publicly lambasted the tax cut when he was on Arizona Illustrated on 6-2-06.

“He backed Huffman” – That proves nothing. Steve is another mushy pro-abortion moderate (at best.)

Liberal Republicans are welcome in the GOP about as much as Gabby is welcome with her supposed “pro Wal-Mart” vote. The Democrats have their own form of the inquisition.

Art Jacobson said...

George Tuttle...

I'm really surprised by your surprise, which suggests a greater lack of political sophistication than I expected of you.

This is a very old political strategy.
I re-register as an Independent so I can vote in the Republican primary. Depending on the slate I can then vote either for the Republican I believe most defeatable...or for the Republican(s)I find least objectionable. (Remember, Lena has no Democratic primary opponent.)

If, when the time comes, I don't think
the Republican candidates in LD 26 are too objectionable I can ask for a Democratic ballot and vote for Giffords.

If my best judgement is that Giffords is a a certain winner, I can vote for whomever I think might be her most easily defeated Republican opponent.

All these options are open to the Independent.

Art

phx kid said...

Art,

Your strategy is very wise. It may actually help Toni because her pro-firearm stand will fit well with many independent voters.

The same cannot be said for Pete. He is probably so far out there that he will not have much appeal to the independent vote.

Liza said...

I can't say I've ever heard anyone use the term "liberal Republican" before now. All that seems to be left of the Republican Party are the PNAC neo-conservatives, the religious right, the fabulously wealthy, and the millions of middle and lower class people who have been brainwashed into believing that what is good for Exxon Mobil is good for them. Really, what else is there?

Maybe some Republicans just don't get it yet. Worse yet, maybe they still believe in something the party once stood for. Well, someone should get this message to Pete: "Independent thinking is not an option."

George Tuttle said...

Art, no it isn't lack of sophistication..that's where you're wrong.

I serve the local Democratic party (although with Howie's little faux-pas, I will begin working and donating for candidates only.) My surprise is that you profess to be the Democrat you are, how do you not help the local LD? I know the Vice-Chair there and I know just because he lives there, I would doubt he would give us so easily.

phx kid said...

Pete has heard the message. The problem is he is not listening. If Pete is so Independent who does he not change his registration to reflect that.

“Really, what else is there?” How about a large swath of the middle class that does not think owning a gun, smoking a cigar, driving an SUV, defending America, and other general apple pie issues should be a crime. Many of them also do not look at having a little baby torn out of the uterus limb by limb by a suction device as compassionate.

The Democratic presidential candidate in 2004 was a perfect example. It was not that Bush was perfect; most people did not see Kerry as an acceptable option. His views were outside the mainstream.

George Tuttle said...

Also Art, I forgot to mention, your donation to Toni Hellon when she has an opponent really makes you look like D big time.

Like straddling that fence..don't you?

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phx kid said...

Roger,

I heard the same interview on the John C. Scott show. Patty was very smooth. The story about her husband’s check to Kyl was not an example of how corrupt the system is. It is a case of her husband being spineless. He could have gone to the press with that story and shamed Kyl into supporting whatever the project was. But her spouse betrayed his own conscience and wrote the check. I don't remeber Patty saying if they got the funding. If they did not then it shows that you cannot buy influence.

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phx kid said...

Roger,

I did indeed hear those words come from Patty about the endorsements. Patty should produce names. To do otherwise would be to engage in McCarthyism. It is all too easy to claim something and then never back up the statement.